they're going to talk to her and senator mccain will be gracious to her. and, again, all the questions that are being asked about benghazi that are reasonable, rational questions that most americans have unless they're extreme left wingers on twitter -- or joe klein, those are logical questions that need to be asked. i love you, joe, but i'm not sure yesterday what you were on -- >> i know what he was on, the truth. >> what the hell ever. listen, there are legitimate questions to be asked -- >> there are. >> even though -- >> there are some dumb ones too. >> even though left wing partisans don't want those questions to be asked. however, richard, there are a lot of questions to be asked about benghazi that john mccain and lindsey graham asked all the wrong ones and went after the wrong person. this was not susan rice's problem. >> she was a spokesperson for the administration. she is up to be potentially secretary of state. she's not up to be mayor in bengha benghazi. they should have her up there, but ultimately they should ask her about trade policy and